Online Poker Bankroll Challenge
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2019 Bankroll Challenge. Event Period: 2019.09.30 – 2019.10.25 CST 23:59. Bankroll challenge J88 Poker j88扑克 online poker poker bankroll poker tournament pokernews TexasHold'em. In August of 2016, Doug Polk launched a poker bankroll challenge, with the goal of turning $100 into $10,000. Doug grinded this challenge often during the first few months, but progress has slowed to a crawl since then. Now, Doug sporadically streams bankroll challenge sessions, and probably won’t complete the challenge anytime in the near future.
Over the years, I have seen a couple of questions floated around quite often. People either ask, “what’s the best way to build a bankroll?” or, “what’s the fastest way to build a bankroll from scratch?” I think I have a simple, if unorthodox, answer to both questions.
In my experience, building a bankroll from scratch can be a painstaking and tedious endeavor. Sometimes it’s hard to take the lowest levels seriously when you are playing for nickel and dime-sized pots after buying in for less than the cost of a cheeseburger. This is especially true if you are used to playing for cheeseburger blinds! I should know, as I have personally rebuilt from practically nothing more times than I care to admit.
During those various campaigns toward building to robusto, I have learned a few things that I think are worth sharing. In fact, my entire method of play was built around rebuilding my bankroll after Black Friday. Back then, I began to look at the most efficient way of doing everything in poker, and it became a bit of an obsession.
My primary goal for this article is to help cash game veterans rebuild their bankroll, whether as a challenge or for whatever reason, in the shortest amount of time possible. If you are building your initial bankroll and are mostly still learning the game, keep in mind that quick ascension is not recommended. In that case, you will want to worry less about speed and more about improvement.
Bankroll Management For Beginners & Intermediate Players
As a beginner, building a cash game bankroll is traditionally more about progressing as a player and navigating the enormous learning curve en route to becoming a winning poker player. The speed at which a bankroll grows is secondary to learning. In fact, people often end up having enough in their bankroll to move up to a particular stake before their skill has progressed to the point where they can actually win at that level. Bankroll does indeed generally increase faster than skill.
Therefore, for those still who are still not already beating mid-stakes or higher, I recommend following a bankroll management program that includes frequently cashing out. This allows a person to take it slow and maximize their chances to make it at the next level each time they move up. It also instills a sense of accomplishment and a feeling that the game of poker is rewarding them for their effort.
My favorite method for this is known as the stairs bankroll building method, which includes adding several steps to each stake level. At each level, several cashouts are scheduled as the bankroll increased. Once a certain number of cash outs have been completed, the progression to the next stake can occur.
While I think beginners and intermediate players should not be rushing to higher stakes, there is still value to be had by learning to build a bankroll fast. In fact, the same method that I espouse will also simplify the game and help with the learning process. Because of this, I recommend that newer players keep reading and decide for yourself if my method is worthwhile.
Bankroll Building For Experienced Players
If you are not a beginner and are already able to beat mid stakes, you will want to power through the stakes as quickly as possible. Whatever reason you are starting from scratch doesn’t matter. Maybe you don’t have the capital because you took a shot at the nosebleeds and it didn’t work out, had to cash your entire bankroll out due to financial reasons, or perhaps you took a few months or years off from the game and are a returning player. Or, like me, you could just be doing it as a challenge. Regardless of the reason, you probably just want to build the bankroll as quickly as possible.
Just keep in mind that quickly does not mean that the method is risky or in violation of the guidelines of smart bankroll management, #2 on my list of common traits among successful poker players. On the contrary, the technique you will learn about here actually simplifies the whole process and lowers your risk of losing large amounts of money quickly. Before we get into the details, let’s look at traditional ways people try to build a bankroll faster.
The Mainstream Way To Expedite Bankroll Growth
There really isn’t much good advice out there on building up fast. The answer that most gurus or teachers might give is for you to play more hands and/or take reasonable shots at the next level often. Invariably, this idea of just “working harder and putting in more hours” is established under the context of someone setting up their bankroll management plan based upon playing a starting stack of 100 big blinds and needing around 20 to 30 buy-ins to take a shot at the next level. Let’s take a look at what a common plan for rebuilding might look like.
Typical Bankroll Management Scheme
The plan might look something like this with a starting bankroll of $50 at 2NL:
- 5NL shot at $100, move down if you drop below $75
- 10NL shot at $200, move down if you drop below $150
- 25NL shot at $500, move down if you drop below $375
- 50NL shot at $1000, move down if you drop below $750
- 100NL shot at $2500, move down if you drop below $2000
- 200NL shot at $6000
You get the idea.
Problems With The Mainstream Method
There are two major issues with the “play more, take shots” method that is just as likely to sink you as they are to lead to a robust bankroll.
- Increased Risk Of Ruin
Most would agree that the above bankroll building strategy is aggressive, only requiring 20 or 25 buy-ins to take a shot at the next level. Anything more ambitious would invite a risk of ruin that is difficult to overcome. As we all know, 10 buy-in downswings are commonplace over short periods of time and dealing with periods of losing is a constant struggle. - Burnout
Putting in hours above your comfort level can not only lead to soft-tilt issues or sub-optimal play, it also can wear on you over time. It is much better to stick to a comfortable schedule that can be maintained long-term. Of course, this doesn’t increase the speed of your bankroll building quest.
A Simple Solution
What if I told you that there was a simple way to build your bankroll many times faster without increasing your risk or burnout or going broke one iota? The answer is simple really.
Just buy in for less money.
Short Stacking? Are You Joking??
I know. I know. Short stackers are scum, right? Everyone has hammered this idea into you since the first time you logged into a poker forum. But maybe, just maybe, some of them are doing it for other reasons than to just piss you off.
And, in case you didn’t know, short stacking has evolved quite a bit since the early days. No longer is it about buying in for 10 or 20 big blinds and just relentlessly shoving all-in on people. In fact, profitable short stackers have been anything but shove-bots over the last few years. 3-bet or 4-bet shoving is but one weapon in the arsenal of 30-50 big blind players.
The truth is, playing a short stack can be brilliant; if you forget the bad press they get and, instead, take a close look at the actual strategy itself. Indeed, by taking the viewpoint that short stacking is simply an excellent tool to mitigate risk and achieve a larger hourly rate faster, all of the negative press begins to seem silly and the true merit of buying in short becomes clear.
That is not to say that there aren’t other advantages to playing a short stack. In fact, there are many. I won’t go into all of them now since I have already covered that topic in depth. Instead, let’s take a look at what a bankroll management scheme might look like if you buy in for 40 big blinds instead of the typical 100.
Short Stack Bankroll Management
Let’s say we again start with $50, except now, we can begin our bankroll building journey at 5NL instead of 2NL. 40 big blinds at 5NL is $2.00. That gives us a full 25 buy-ins, making it extremely difficult to go broke. Here is what the shot-taking schedule would look like:
- 10NL shot at $80, move down if you drop below $60
- 25NL shot at $200, move down if you drop below $150
- 50NL shot at $400, move down if you drop below $300
- 100NL shot at $1000, move down if you drop below $800
- 200NL shot at $2400
Dueling Methodologies
Two things jump out at you right away when you compare the two schemes.
- 100bb play is slow going
When short stacking, you are basically playing 1 level ahead of your 100bb counterparts. When they are at 10NL, you are at 25NL. When they are at 100NL, you are at 200NL. So on and so forth. - You get to keep a lot less online when playing a short stack.
In order to take the 200NL shot, you are required to have $3,600 less. As a short stack, you are able to substantially decrease the amount of money you need to keep on the poker site to fund your play. This is an important consideration post Black Friday since unfortunately, risk management must figure into the calculus for any serious poker player. Minimizing your exposure to another “pokerocalypse” is just plain smart
This is what poker players saw when they logged into a few of the poker sites on Black Friday.
To further compare the two methods, let’s illustrate how this might play out by comparing a hypothetical journey of two players who each start with $50, Player A and Player B. Player A decides to play a full stack and Player B goes with a 40bb short stack. Just to make it simple, let’s say they both maintain the same modest win-rate for the entire challenge and neither has to move down at any point. They both get extremely lucky and all of their shots stick. Before we can track their progress we need to establish what would be a reasonable win rate for each level. Here is a list of typical hourly rates by poker stake:
- 2NL: $0.50/hr
- 5NL: $1.00/hr
- 10NL: $2.00/hr
- 25NL: $5.00/hr
- 50NL: $10.00/hr
- 100NL: $15.00/hr
- 200NL: $25.00/hr
Now that we know how much each player will make per hour, let’s establish the amount of time that each player will have to spend at each level, during their campaign to play at 200NL:
Player A:
- 2NL: 100 hours
- 5NL: 100 hours
- 10NL: 150 hours
- 25NL: 100 hours
- 50NL: 150 hours
- 100NL: 233 hours
Total hours to get to 200NL: 833
Player B:
- 2NL: N/A
- 5NL: 30 hours
- 10NL: 60 hours
- 25NL: 40 hours
- 50NL: 60 hours
- 100NL: 93 hours
Total hours to get to 200NL: 283
Wow, the short stacker gets to 200NL 550 hours faster, that’s 110 days faster if each plays 5 hours a day. That’s almost a full 4 months. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, since Player A will have more money when he gets to 200NL.
Does Bankroll Size Matter?
You might be thinking, “Sure Player B gets to 200NL faster, but he also will have a lot less money when he gets there.” You are right, however, Player B will get to 200NL 550 hours faster, and, assuming he doesn’t move up any higher than 200NL, will potentially be making $25/hr while Player A continues to grind it out at lower stakes. So, with that little tidbit in mind, let’s run the numbers:
- Player A’s bankroll when he gets to 200NL: $6,000
- Player B’s bankroll when Player A gets to 200NL: $2,400+($25×550)= $16,150!!!
I don’t know about you, my ratholing compadres, but I would prefer to have the extra 10k brick of cheese in my bankroll.
The Verdict: Long Road or Short Road?
To be honest, before putting this example down on paper, I had no idea of what the disparity between the two approaches would be. In fact, I must admit that I and am completely blown away by the numbers. Moreover, this example doesn’t even factor in that Player B could have moved beyond 200NL and made it to 400NL, 600NL, even 1000NL. Who knows how much one might make in that extra 550 hours. Beforehand, I was confident that playing a small stack was far superior, but had no idea it was this extreme.
Even if you reduce Player B’s hourly rate quite a bit, it seems obvious which path should be chosen when building a bankroll from scratch. Short stacking is the way to go, and it isn’t even close. Hence, if you are building a bankroll, or, like the idea of having less money to risk, then short stacking is an excellent option and something you should consider trying. If nothing else, it could be a fun undertaking and a nice change of pace.
Why I Know This Works
I did a short stack bankroll challenge in 2017 and documented the entire journey on my YouTube channel. Basically, I took the spare change lying around the house or in my car and ran it up to mid stakes in just a few months, all while playing a short stack. I even ran into some nasty negative variance along the way. Crazy, but true! So, if you are skeptical that short stacking is a viable way to build a bankroll, check it out.
If you decide to give short stacking a try, below is a downloadable calculator for bankroll management. Thanks for reading and good luck!
Video Version of This Article
My name is Sky Matsuhashi and I’m here to help you become the poker player you’ve always wanted to be. Can you imagine moving up in buy-ins and playing for bigger stakes, or bringing home some extra income every month?
I’ve dedicated my life to improving my poker game and I have a lot to teach you. I’m an educator at heart and I love helping others achieve their goals.
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If you’re feeling like your skills are inadequate or you need to start with a solid foundation, this page will help you.
Starting an Online Poker Journey
You may be intimidated by playing online, or you’re ready and raring to begin an online journey. Either way, I created this humungous page with everything you need to know to start an enjoyable, profitable and rewarding online poker journey. On this page, you’ll learn:
- The benefits of playing online poker versus LIVE poker
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Get Your Poker Study On
I’m all about studying in order to improve your skills, but if you’ve been out of school for a while (or never enjoyed it), starting a study routine can be tough. This video is going to help you study the smart and easy way with a simple 4-step process:
If you’re looking for more detailed study guidance, here’s Your Poker Strategy Guide for 2020.
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Progressively Build Foundational Poker Skills
This series of podcast episodes (along with the super helpful show notes pages) worked to help you progressively build your poker skills starting with preflop ranges, taking you through post-flop math and plays, hand reading then ultimately the mental game. This series inspired my 3rd book called Preflop Online Poker and my upcoming 4th book, Post-flop Online Poker.
Start with this episode, then work your way through the rest of the series as you study and put into action the skills I teach you. The show notes for episode 87 contains links to every episode in the series.
Here’s my epic post about the most important skill in poker: Hand Reading. This post has 3 podcasts (#250, #251 and #252 below) and multiple videos all geared to turning you into an effective hand reader. All of the best players use their hand reading skills to maximize the effectiveness of their study time and their profitability when on-the-felt.
A critical topic I discuss almost all the time is exploiting your opponents. But, the first step to this is understanding the 4 basic player types. You’ve got to know what each is, the characteristics of each, indications that someone is one or the other, and their general approach to pre-flop and post-flop poker. With this episode I also made available a Poker Player Types PDF listing many ways to exploit each type.
Poker Resources
We can all use a hand with our studies and poker play, and there are many things I use daily to help me improve my game. I’ll continue to add anything here that I think you’ll find valuable and that will aid you in your poker development. These are the items that make my poker studies and poker play as simple yet efficient as possible. I recommend these to others time and time again.
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Tracking Software Recommendation: PokerTracker 4
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Range Analysis Software Recommendation: Flopzilla
Flopzilla is the most incredible range analysis software available. It’s designed to let you quickly and easily figure out how a range hits a board. Just enter a preflop range and a board and Flopzilla will work out for you how often that range hits hands like top pair, middle pair, a flush draw, a gutshot, etc. The interface is designed to be quick, easy to use and intuitive. This is the perfect software for analyzing hands and improving your hand reading skills.
Screen Capture Software Recommendations: OBS
Open Broadcaster Software (OBS) is a free and open source software for video recording and live streaming. Download and start streaming quickly and easily on Windows, Mac or Linux. This is the program the pros, Twitch streamers and I use to record for streams, training videos and for game tape.
Smart Poker Study Resources
I created each of these items to help me track my studies and improve my play.
This Poker Goals PDF gives you all the criteria you need to set SMART Poker Goals. Making better goals will lead to greater poker success.
This Break-even Math Cheat Sheet gives you all the break-even %’s for the different pre-flop plays you’re going to make. Know how often you need your opens, call and bets to work in order to be break-even.
Poker Quantifiables Tracking Sheet – A worksheet to help you keep track of important stats as your studies progress.
Range Review Tracker – A worksheet to help you track the ranging success in your poker studies.
30-Day Challenge Tracker – A tracker to help you incorporate positive poker habits in your life (or any other aspect of life for that matter).
Online Poker Bankroll Challenges
This Leak Plugging PDF contains descriptions of the most common and painful leaks, ways to spot them, steps to fixing and tips on exploiting opponents with this same leak.
This 7 Steps to Poker Book Learning PDF shows you how to get the most from every poker book you read.
Live Poker Bankroll Management
Please let me know if there is any other way I can help you improve your game! Just send me an email at sky@smartpokerstudy.com.